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The Dark Side of Thailand’s Island Paradise

Edit: 24 December 2015: The two Burmese have been found guilty of murder and have been sentence to the death penalty as we predicted way back in September 2014. This is after a complete travesty of justice, with tampered and lost DNA evidence, confessions under duress, lack of translators, mafia threats to journalists, a smear campaign against me originating from a Farang bar owner connected to the family in question, as well as this post being used as the basis for numerous articles including Time, Channel 4 news and more. While the defence team say they will appeal, I’m guessing that under the current military regime that this will never happen, or that something will happen to the two Burmese migrants who were made to be scapegoats – after all “no Thai could ever do this”.  

Shame to the westerners who live on the island and have continued to support the family in question, those who have helped to cover up what has happened. You now have the blood of these two unfortunate workers on your hands. I hope that the lifestyle is worth it. 

Edit  30 September, 2014: Since publishing this post it has received over 40,000 views, 4,000 Facebook shares and has been quoted in major international newspapers. Due to this I will be editing it as a live document, with news as it comes in. I’ve received a few angry messages from people on the island with vested interests (as well as very close connections to the very mafia families mentioned here) and past residents have added their two cents in the comments section – if you have had any personal experiences or can add to this, please feel free to comment.  Any corrections will be added providing there is evidence to do so. 

The recent murders in Koh Tao of two young backpackers have attracted a lot of unwanted attention to the dark side of Thailand, including “mafiastyle families (known as Chao Pho “เจ้าพ่อ” in Thai) operating in the Gulf of Thailand on islands such as Koh Phangan, Koh Tao and Koh Samui.

Chao pho or jao poh literally means “godfather.” Chao pho are mostly of Han ethnicity based in the provinces who have business interests in both legitimate and criminal activities. Moreover, they have groups of associates and followers, move closely with powerful bureaucrats, policemen and military figures, sit in positions in local administration, and play a key role in parliamentary elections.[1] Chao pho mostly come from a Hanethnic background.According to Thai authorities, there are chao pho groups in 39 of Thailand’s 76 provinces. From these provinces they work like a local mafia as they are active in both illegal as well as some legitimate businesses. They are involved in a wide range of criminal activities such as prostitution, drug trafficking, illegal gambling and others They are known for cooperating with the Red Wa ( who are associated with the United Wa State Army) for the trafficking and sale of narcotics.[2]

– Wikipedia “Chao Pho

Having lived on both Tao and Phangan, I’ve got some insights (but can’t claim to know everything) about how things operate – which should give more of a picture to what is currently going on than what foreign journalists are portraying.  As with anything in Thailand, things are much, much more complex than they appear at first.

A Bit of Koh Tao History

For most of it’s history Koh Tao looked nothing like it did today. It was likely a stopping off point for Malay fishermen for centuries, due largely to its isolated position in the Gulf of Thailand. In the 1800s, there would have been a couple of small villages, while later on in the 1890’s King Chulalongkorn visited the island – which is marked with a monument on Sairee beach.  The island remained a quiet place for decades, with a few fishing families and farmers and not much else.

After the Siamese Revolution of 1932, the country moved from being an absolute monarchy to a constitutional democracy (of sorts).  Koh Tao was used as a political prison in a similar way to Koh Tarutao in the South. In 1947, the prisoner inhabitants were given a Royal pardon and shipped off out of exile to the neighboring islands of Koh Phangan and Koh Samui. The island was once again abandoned.

The legend then goes that two brothers from Koh Phangan sailed to Koh Tao and settled on the land that is now considered Sairee beach. They farmed and fished and lead a fairly simple lifestyle occasionally trading with those on Koh Phangan.

The Vietnam war came about, which created a tourism boom in Thailand during the 1960s and 1970s for American GIs on R&R. Early backpackers began to explore the Islands in the gulf of Thailand, with dive trips originating from Koh Samui and Koh Phangan. The first full moon party being held on Phangan in the late 1980s. Gradually tourism began to increase on the Islands, and the island began to become more and more developed. First with a few simple shops and dive huts, then resorts, and later bars and other non diving related business. Larger ferry companies such as Lomprayah, Seatran and Songserm began to serve the island with overnight buses originating from Bangkok to fill the many spots on a growing dive industry. The island developed its two main areas of Sairee beach (which is now full of nightclubs, resorts and dive shops) and the sleepier “local” side of Chalok Ban Kao as well as the busy port of Mae Haad.

Power Structures on the Island

As with virtually any other town, village or island there is a patronage style system that those in the west would consider “mafia like”. However due to Koh Tao’s isolation and history this becomes more complex.  (Technically these go all the way from the lowliest street vendor, through mafia and local government, all the way up to the military and eventually Royalty –

Spend any time living on the island or speak to long termers under normal circumstances and they will speak of the “five families” that inhabit the island. Three of these key families inhabit and control the main Sairee beach, while the other two have more power on the Chalok side of the Island.

These families are the descendents of the original settler families that arrived on the island between the 1940s and 1980s, prior to the advent of dive tourism. Although they do not own land (all land on the island is technically owned by the King via the Department of Marine and Coastal Resources) they do have a form of squatters rights that allows them to extract rent and develop businesses on their patch. A very small land rent is then payable to the crown for every “rai” (a Thai measurement of land) that they possess.

These families control or have an interest in virtually every business on the island in some way, shape or form. This can either be in the form of direct ownership, partnership, as a landlord or major supplier. No business on the island, whether Thai or Farang exists without some form of interaction of patronage or involvement from these key families.

The families areas are fairly clearly demarcated around property boundaries. What might be appropriate behavior in one area of the beach, would not be acceptable behavior in another. A long termer may have “protection” in one bar, but would never contemplate entering another due to relationships (business, friendship or otherwise) with someone connected to another.

These families, in typical Thai fashion, tend to be incredibly jealous of each other, and highly competitive for every tourist dollar. There are many stories on the islands of what happens when one family perceives another family to have wronged them in one way or another and it generally involves petty rivalries over cash.

The other power source on the island is the Royal Thai Police who operate out of a building behind the school and temple on the Mae Haad end of Sairee beach. To describe them as law enforcement is generous, as they are merely another form of mafia style organisation on the island (a 6th family if you will). Their police work generally consists of driving around the island on their scooters, collecting their weekly extortion money from local businesses before spending it on booze and other entertainment. It’s worth noting that police purchase their postings in Thailand, it costs money to be the top police officer in a Tourist area, because to Thais – being the local sheriff in town is a business opportunity. Ask locals what the going rate is to be head of police in Phuket, Samui, Pattaya or any other area with a large potential revenue stream of bribes from strung up tourists.

“If there really is a mafia, locals and police detectives would have informed me already,” Pol.Gen. Somyot.

Transparency International’s Global Corruption Barometer 2007, a survey assessing the public’s perceptions and experience of corruption in 60 countries, states that, for Thailand, the police received a rating of four out of five, where one represents “not at all corrupt” and five represents “extremely corrupt”

– Wikipedia

Drugs on the Island

Drugs are prevalent on Koh Tao and easier to get. As with everything on the island there is a police of family involvement.  In my time there, I saw people on a wide variety of substances, including cannabis, LSD, Ya Ba ( literally “crazy drug” in Thai, a mixture of methamphetamine and caffeine) and surprisingly cocaine. Cocaine was being consumed by many of the Thai Bar owners on Sairee beach while I was there during low season, and resulted in unpredictable behaviour – extreme highs, and extreme lows, which could potentially turn dangerous at a moments notice.

Long term locals all know the situation with drugs on the island, either consuming or turning a blind eye. When the police start to run low on cash, checkpoints will be set up on the road to Ao Leuk and the entrance to North Sairee village. This is where fresh foreigners will be caught with small amounts of cannabis, or urine tests will sometimes be taken for substances.  The police intention is not to catch and charge foreigners for drug possession, but to use the threat of criminal sanction as leverage in order to extort cash off them.

When the amount is too large to cover up, criminal charges may be laid, but generally the person charged will get out on bail and a local lawyer will arrange a generous fine in order to get the person off the charges.  Everyone involved takes their cut. In my time on the island I’ve personally witnessed a Thai businessman threatening to plant drugs under the seat of the motorbike due to a perceived insult from a farang, before calling the police.

Motorbike Rental Extortion

The biggest scam on the island (as with the other islands in the Gulf) involves the rental of motorbikes to tourists. All of the motorbike rental companies require a passport as collateral and use a standard rental agreement that is common on Koh Tao, Koh Phangan and Koh Samui. Requiring a passport for collateral is illegal in Thailand, and for many nationals it is also illegal for them to provide. That said most tourists still do this, naive to how everything works.

Bikes that are returned with any damage, no matter how small result in massive costs for the renter.  A scratched piece of plastic that costs no more than 300 baht, will be charged anywhere from 3,000-10,000 baht.  Excessive consumption of booze, poor quality roads, crazy taxi drivers and lack of lighting at night result in more than a fair share of motorbike accidents. Tourists are often eager to leave after a crash, and don’t want to miss their ferry – leaving all of the power with the rental company to extort whatever they like for a damaged bike. Those who argue with a rental company risk physical violence, and there have been multiple reports of on tripadvisor of firearms being pulled on those who argue with the rental company.

Koh Tao continues to rent out dangerous four wheel ATVs to inexperienced riders, a practise that has been banned on the other gulf islands due to the sheer number of accidents. None of these bikes are insured (even those that advertise insurance) and riders who do not carry an international drivers licence, with a motorbike endorsement along with specific cover for motorbike riding are not covered.

As with any other islands, police involvement may result in a slight decrease in the compensation for any motorbike accident, but the police officer will need to take his cut.

Violent Crime on the Island

Generally speaking the island is very safe.  Part of the reason for this, is ironically enough that local strongmen and families keep the peace. There is only one main way in and out of the Island, and if you put a foot wrong you will be made to leave.  By the same token, there is little theft because of the small size and difficulty of removing valuable items. There have however been a few incidents that I know of in the recent history of the island.

  • A bar owner was shot dead in a bar on Sairee beach, in public on a busy night in front of multiple witnesses over a business dispute. The bar has since been renamed and is under new (unrelated) management.  No one was ever arrested for the shooting, and the alleged shooter operates a bar on the other side of the island.
  • Around 2002, one of the most powerful business people on the island, and brother of the operator of a major dive (Ban’s Diving – the biggest dive school in the world) school is shot dead in the middle of Sairee after a dispute with families. This is allegedly in or around the same shop that Scot, Sean McAnna was in when hiding from the two Thai men over the weekend. Again, no one was ever arrested for the shooting, though many locals claim to know who did it. Apparently the body was still in a freezer waiting to be cremated 6 years later. The story was covered by the Bangkok Post, but is no longer available online.

TAO chief killed by masked man

Shot in daylight, talking to friends

A local administrative organisation chief and business tycoon was shot dead by a masked gunman on Tao island early yesterday morning.

Virat Asavachin, 42, chairman of Tambon Koh Tao Administrative Association, was shot while talking with three friends near Ree beach.

A lone gunman, his face covered with a woollen mask, walked up to the group and fired six shots at Mr Virat, police said.

One of the bullets entered his left ear.

The gunman then walked calmly away towards the main road, witnesses told police.

The dead man’s wife, Ramluek, 29, and tambon organisation officials were questioned yesterday as police investigators looked for a motive.

The investigators suspected the attack arose from either a business conflict or a dispute over work in the tambon.

The victim owned Ban’s Diving, a 100-million-baht diving business and the largest dive shop on the resort island.

He recently began a ferry boat business serving the Chumphon-Koh Tao route.

  • A taxi driver stabbed another taxi driver in Mae Haad after he “stole” a customer from him in broad daylight. No one was ever arrested. Taxis are also operated by two mafia families – there are no motorcycle taxis allowed and the lack of competition results in extortionately expensive taxi fares.
  • There are also numerous stories of bars being burned down by jealous brothers, or even landlords.  Parties have been shut down at gunpoint by jealous competitors with an empty bar. Business owners have been made to leave the island at gunpoint by the close of business.
  • There are many stories of Thai on Thai crime, generally involving shootings over men who have fooled around with others wives. This tends to happen away from the resort areas.
  • The attempted rape and throat slashing of a foreign bar managers wife, which went unreported.

In the Context of the Recent Murders

Over the last few days a very complex and ever changing story has emerged from the Island.

  1. A pair of British tourist’s were brutally murdered on the beach front in front of a bar owned by a local Poo Yai (big man on the island) using tools that belong to either a Thai business or migrant labourers.
  2. Local police were quoted as saying that a Thai could never do something like this (even though there are thousands of Thais in jail for doing similar things to each other), and proceeded to attempt to pin the blame on everyone from the victims best friends, migrant burmese labourers and more.
  3. Police officers start posting images of the victims on their personal Facebook accounts, people who are IDed as potential suspects later on are photographed walking all over and contaminating the crime scene.
  4. The media leaks sensitive information, and starts to paint a picture blaming the friend of the victim, claiming he is his gay lover and completely defaming him. Police apparently plant bloodied shorts in his bag.
  5. The Prime Minister then stepped in, proceeding to blame the victim of the murder for being pretty and wearing a bikini, even though the murder was at night and photos of video the victim show her fully clothed prior to the incident.
  6. A long termer on the island (Scott McAnna) who is also a friend of the male victim accuses local family members of being involved with the murder (he does not directly accuse them of it) and threatening to hang him, and use him as a scapegoat. He posts this on social media, and attempts to get it far and wide, with posts along the lines of if he is found dead tonight, these are the guys who did it.The Thais involved openly admit they “had words” with Sean, confirming that he was at least threatened, but because they are “Poo Yai” and mates with the cops, they are allowed to walk – without taking a DNA test.
  7. The police continue their ludicrous investigation including reenacting the scene in the middle of the night, measuring the footprints of Burmese women and taking urine tests from Burmese males.
  8. Various things would have happened behind the scenes, and eventually those fingered by the foreigner are brought into the police station for an interview, and refuse DNA tests.
  9. Relatives of those accused by Sean of threatening to kill him do a runner up to Bangkok. Thai media name them as suspects while local police claim they are not, and merely at University. This is after the island was supposed to have been sealed off.
  10. Posts pop up on various facebook groups urging foreigners not to comment to the media, or speak to any outsiders until approval is given by key people on the island.  Comments are deleted or self censored.  There is an appearance of a wall of silence, either for personal safety, or to protect business interests.
  11. Various sock puppet accounts appear on online message boards such as Thaivisa.com attempting to derail commentary on the incident and the character assassination of the only witness begins.
  12. It turns out that the witness has a very shady past of his own back in Europe, this is reported in Scottish newspapers.
  13. Family are cleared due to DNA tests that are processed in record time (bare in mind that it takes 3 hours to get off Koh Tao by boat, and up to 9 hours to drive to Bangkok – where the main forensic labs would be, otherwise its a 3 hour boat ride to Koh Samui, then a 1 hour plane to Bangkok. This is before even factoring in the time it would take to actually process the tests). DNA Tests in a first world country generally take anywhere from 24-48 hours, and thats not even taking into account the chain of custody of samples each way. There is some concern as to whether Thailand even is capable of testing to international standards (this is an old source, circa 2007):

    “Currently, neither of the 6 forensic DNA laboratories in Bangkok is accredited for forensic DNA analysis by international accreditation bodies nor ISO17025:2005. However, out of the 6 DNA laboratories, one laboratory is ISO 15189:2003 accredited and one is ISO 9001:2000 accredited for the management system. All of the 6 laboratories are equipped with essential instruments sufficient for carrying out forensic DNA analysis, though a need to balance the capacity of major instruments to reach it’s full capacity. To strengthen the competency of staffs, specialtraining regarding forensic issues must be provided. All 6 laboratories have positive attitude towards standards and accreditation as prerequisite to carry out forensic case work. Over 66.67% of the DNA laboratories aim for being ISO17025:2005 accredited within 3 years. However, in order to process for the accreditation, the main organizationmust have a clear supporting policy. An external auditor may be appointed as a part of the auditing team to provide a broader view to the laboratory, as well as demonstrating clarity of the quality assurance process. In the beginning of this year, 2007, the Bureau of Laboratory Quality Standards, Ministry of Public Health, Thailand has launched anaccreditation program based on ISO/IEC 17025:2005 for forensic science laboratories. This is would help support Thai forensic laboratories to meet the quality and international standards in the very near future.”

  14. Family head man offers 1 million baht (about $40,000 NZD) to the police if a member of his family is guilty.  This screams either blood money, that he knows who did it, or that its a thinly veiled threat against any local who might name a family member.
  15. Police stop considering Head man’s son as a suspect as he has a dubious “alibi” in Bangkok, yet no DNA tests are taken. It is unclear whether there is a second son on the run, due to the poor quality of Thai and Foreign of media reporting. The person in charge of the Forensics institute in Thailand is none other than Pornthip Rojanasusnan, the same person who defended the fraudulent GT-2000 bomb detectors, which had no working parts. She even suggested using these fake bomb detectors to find corpses that were rumoured to be held in shipping containers off the Thai coast in 2009.  In 2010 she was quoted as saying: “I do not feel embarrassed if the bomb detector is proven ineffective. Personally, I have never handled the device myself. But my people have used it and it is accurate every time. Long long time ago, people believed that the Earth is flat and anyone who said otherwise faced execution. Things which are not visible does not necessarily mean they do not exist.”
  16. A Thai Taxi driver says he is arrested by the local police who then offer him 700,000 baht to give false evidence.  He is beaten when he does not comply. He states that the knows nothing about the incident. The headman (whose family was earlier implicated by Sean McAnna as making threats on his life) urges the police not to use violence with the police or arrest a scapegoat.
  17. The Tourism Authority of Thailand visit Koh Tao, and the Minister of Tourism suggest solutions such as wristbands with tourists ID details and tracking devices for tourists, as well as a local “buddy system” and safe areas. This is received with widespread ridicule worldwide, as such a system would do absolutely nothing to prevent violent crime against tourists, but would make a considerable amount of money for whoever is involved in the production of said devices and wristbands.

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At this stage its not clear exactly what happened, though generally speaking, when there is smoke – there is fire. I have no idea what happened on that night, as I’m on the other side of the world.  Based on past experiences on the island – I do have strong suspicions that the local families and police have actively tried to derail the investigation, attempted to cover it up and that had social media not attracted international attention on the case, that a Burmese scapegoat would have been found.  The police almost admit this  in a newspaper article:

“Please have confidence in our work, there will be no scapegoats”

“The case is being watched closely, watched worldwide and we are working hard to make this case as airtight as possible”

Lt Gen Panya

I personally believe Sean McAnna when he says he was threatened by the local Thais. I’ve read various claims on Thaivisa.com that the threats were too direct and in colliqual english that would not be used by a Thai.  Koh Tao is not like other areas in Thailand – the locals have the best command of English out of anywhere I’ve been.  His chequered past would have made him an easy patsy, but then again so would many long term residents on the Island whom the local police are probably keeping tabs on. The police were building a story about guitar players, about foreigners and that Thai’s couldn’t possibly be involved.

I think had Sean not made his outburst that he probably would have ended up either dead, or blamed for the whole situation. I have absolutely zero faith in the Thai justice system or any island police officers ability to do their job.

I’m saddened by the wall of silence from the Koh Tao expat community, but I can also understand why. Many have had brushes with the law in the past, mostly to do with drug use – and the police always hold this as ammunition for use in the future. Many others have business interests but incorrect Visas or nominee shareholdings in their business or property ownership. They could lose their entire investments and lifestyle that they have become accustomed to simply for speaking out. Some could get deported for overstay, fined for employing illegal immigrants or arrested for working without a work permit.

Something about the whole story still doesn’t make sense though. I simply cannot understand why someone from one of these powerful families would actually get involved in this mess and do something so brutal.  Somewhere these facts don’t add up. Thai males are known to get violent at a moments notice – but this is when “face” comes into play.  They don’t (especially well connected business owners, even ones descended from squatters) just rape and murder two tourists when their entire industry depends on them.

I very much doubt that the person (or people) who did this will actually be punished. I think someone will be arrested, and will have a confession beaten out of them by Thai police. Due to the international attention, local cops cannot risk the loss of face by not “solving” this tragic crime.  It is unlikely however that justice will be done.

There will likely be a short term drop in tourist numbers to the rock, but backpackers generally don’t pay attention to these sort of things, many tend to think they are invincible or will never happen to them, and by next season – things will be back to “normal”.

As with anywhere in Thailand, tourists should use caution while having fun, and always be careful around Thai males when drugs, alcohol and women are involved. What happened was a very rare occurrence, but its not unprecedented on the islands, where suspicious deaths are often reported as being by “natural causes” or “suicide”.

135 thoughts on “The Dark Side of Thailand’s Island Paradise”

  1. Your summation is pretty much what I figured when I saw the headlines. Those Burmese migrants don’t stand a chance. However don’t condemn the Thai people for this sort of behavior, its a worldwide issue. Think any of Putin’s cronies worry about being arrested ? The Chicago Police Department is the biggest gang in the city (read up on the Polish barmaid’s case). Power corrupts no matter what the circumstances.
    http://www.thephuketnews.com/millionaires-son-arrested-for-street-car-racing-47818.php

  2. Having lived in Thailand for a number of years, I am very familiar with the way the Thai system works. Unfortunately, it is more corrupt than this article makes it out to be (which is bad enough). In Pai, over the summer, a cop shot another cop 5 times at the local liquor store. Why? Because this cop (whose family owned the liquor store) was always late for work. Angered, the cop went to the store, shot him 5 times, went to the police station and shot himself in the head. The first cop died a few weeks later. This was covered up immediately. No media attention at all. But, I saw the crime scene and can tell you that this did happen. I have never seen people get so angry like a Thai person. They can just snap. There is a saying that goes something like “Thai’s don’t just throw a punch or two, they fight to kill”. I believe they bottle up all their feelings inside as a means to save face and then the slightest thing can throw them overboard. Having accidentally seen the images of the murdered victims, I think these people were seriously angry. On another note, I read there was a video of one of the men buying L&M Red in 7-11. I have not seen this actually video, but it did strike me as odd when I heard this. I have never seen a Burmese worker buying these cigarettes. Everything aside, nothing adds up and I think yet again, this country is going to be responsible for another 2 innocent lives lost.

  3. Even I’m Thai but I’m doubting about the British case too! I strongly believe that Thai police caught the scapegoat. Thai police did it before if you could remember, Thai-American, Sherry Ann Duncan. There’s Thai who lives in USA making Facebook page name’s “CSI LA” to investigate this case. Btw, I rented Motor bike in Koh Phangan last year (the island is not far from Koh Tao) they charged me about $300 actually it was $450 but they discount me later! I needed to withdraw money from ATM machine, the renter followed me to the ATM even my ID card was with her! She was so obsessed me that time!

    1. Just Thai trash that if was in Australia or USA would be caved right in. They are weak human beings that go to temple and think thats enough for salvation. My time in AU Army and serving in Arab states. Quickly opened my eyes to the cruelty of these animals. As for the RTP they are weaker than Kit Kat. Again they insult the meaning of RTP. Yes the Burmese were framed up and the filthy Thai is running loose looking for another rape victim. The government failed with there so called reform

  4. Reblogged this on Just so! MAY and commented:
    I would love to re-blog this article into my page. Even I’m Thai but I would say this is all exactly true about my country. I love my country, but I’m not staying in daydream. There’re still more story which not in this article! But this article may make you all know something about Thai system. I don’t mean everybody in my country isn’t nice! Tbh they’re almost nice! But almost who are powerful in my country, they’re not nice! So these are some information to prepare yourselves before come to my country, I hope it help!

  5. “It’s impossible to create scapegoats in 2014, since it is easier for police to be grilled by the public,” Prachum.

    Well, that’s one theory? Perhaps this illustrates the kind of simplistic logic being employed here, or, there-lack-of? This is a kind of whinge, “rue-ing the day” the public might want to find a “police-service” (in Thailand, it hardly counts as that) accountable.

    There are plenty of dis-informations posted on the net. Plenty of it in the form of unclear journalistic reporting and conjecture, but often, fed from an unclear source – in this case, the so-called “reliable source” – the authorities.

    I’ve come to term it “dispersing-dis-information”.

    Still, I’ll cut the RTP some slack and allow for the possibility they’ve “have caught their man”. So prove it? and stop threatening the public for entering into a discourse on the body of speculation the RTP have clumsily have fielded in the media. You can’t prosecute the masses for entertaining conjecture on what has yet to be proven in a court of law (albeit a Thai court of law).

    A new unidentified suspect on the DNA trail? Well, surely this discredits the testimony of the Burmese culprits if there is, as yet, an unidentified culprit in the crime.

    If anyone was interested in accountability, they’d of invited the scrutiny of a neutral party and let the politics of “saving face” go by the wayside.

  6. I think its prudent to note that the Police covering the case did NOT employ the services of a Forensic Pathologist in this case, the crime scene was messed up from the start so whatever samples made it to the lab were quite likely cross contaminated. I wouldn’t put too much on Dr. Pornthip’s gaffe about the bomb detectors. She is a respected forensic pathologist. She has also now released a statement casting serious doubt on the forensic evidence gathered in this case

    1. The police are laughable and could not detect a liter of milk in the fridge. There uneducated and lazy. They have paid for there jobs. With the intent to make some Baht. The Army has also failed to reform just the starting point A….. Big talk and all is back to normal scammers, Skis, Dirty operators no uniforms, Tattoos, Look like there on drugs. This is the first thing the happy touirst sees. Giving good Thais a bad name. Prayuth is talker not doer:)

      I would not vote the NCPO if my life depended on it. there performance was been a sham

  7. Top tier reporting here. I found the parts about Han families particularly interesting. I am not well versed on the subject (but what Westerner is, really?), but I suspect this entire country is run by families of Chinese descent, rather than ethnic Thais.

  8. T_T sorry from Thailand.

    I’m here today not because I’m Thai but we are human of the world.
    We want to ask for justice to victims who were murdered in Ko Tao as we want the investigation to be transparent. It’s not only that but also for 2 burmese who were tortured to confess.

    We don’t want to let money become justice and guilty person still live peacefully without any charges. We are so desperate from system in the country,so, we want the world know that there are voices of people that want this case to be cleared. Please help us, please give justice to Hannah and David

  9. T_T sorry from Thailand.

    I’m here today not because I’m Thai but we are human of the world.
    We want to ask for justice to victims who were murdered in Ko Tao as we want the investigation to be transparent. It’s not only that but also for 2 burmese who were tortured to confess.

    We don’t want to let money become justice and guilty person still live peacefully without any charges. We are so desperate from system in the country,so, we want the world know that there are voices of people that want this case to be cleared. Please help us, please give justice to Hannah and David.

  10. Good article and very informative.
    I’ve spent 2 periods within 2 years touring Thailand & it included Koh Samui,Koh Phangnan and Koh Tao.
    So all in all for the last 2 years I’ve spent 25 days on different parts of the different islands alone.
    I’ve a little experience with enforcement and generally I find that Thai people are the same as everyone else,i.e. you give a yard and they want to take a mile.The trick is not to put yourself in the position where you’ve to give a yard.
    I’ve seen some terrible things but all of them from people differing overseas countries taking advantage of the poverty described above.Everybody has a price but unfortunately in Thailand money = survival.
    Foreigners such as I are often ignorant observing Thai culture and I’ve noticed the disappointment in Thai peoples eyes when this happens.I’ve remained friends with 4 or 5 of the people I’ve met there and they are the most genuine honest people that I’ve met on my travels.I think in the article above theres something that puzzles me also.

    “Something about the whole story still doesn’t make sense though. I simply cannot understand why someone from one of these powerful families would actually get involved in this mess and do something so brutal.Somewhere these facts don’t add up”

    I feel likewise.No matter what your experience withThailand and/or Thai people those within and/or without the local empowerment it destroys so many options for every organisation in Thailand never mind Koh Tao.That’s why I think it could be a couple of visitors that totally ‘lost it’.My friends have often been concerned when I’ve even joked about visiting these parties as they are aware of the major dangers around.I’ve heard so many different things while there about attacks,rapes,drugs,girls etcetera that are barbaric,clueless and insane but they were from European and American guys.
    I could be 100% wrong but I don’t think any organisation can cover a trail that well when they’ve absolutely everything to lose.
    Just my opinion.

  11. Thai people are honest and it’s good that most of them do not believe the RTP. Sadly if you are rich and have connections you can get away with murder in Thailand, as appears to have happened here. The RTP are totally corrupt but they have been caught out here, the world will not let them get away with yet another fit up

  12. Some great observations here about the darker side of Thailand. I do hope that justice can be done in this terrible case as soon as possible as it must be really terrible or the sad families concerned to have lost their loved ones. RIP

  13. Thailand will be find if all of foreigners like you will not come to my Thailand. Has a lot of an idiots foreigner stays and makes a big problem to our Thailand why don’t you write and say about its?

    1. God father, if you have a stupid opinion, might as well not say it because it makes you look really dumb. Somebody local killed these tourists, how can you say they caused problem? YOu need to get your brain checked. You are part of the problem why Thailand is such a mess. Tourism contributes 8% to Thailand’s GDP and godforbid if foreigners stop coming to Thailand the effect of having 8% of the economy wiped out is probably going to affect you greatly. So be carefule what you wish for. As a Thai, I’m ashamed to be sharing national identity with such an idiot like you.

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  14. “We found the Facebook page’s administrator might want to destroy the credibility of Thailand’s judicial process.”

    re: CSI LA Facebook’s claims.

    I’d say even Thailand’s judiciary are having a hard time stomaching this one. Nothing to do with the judiciary, more to do with the constabulary.

  15. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29834046
    This is hilarious. Also, yes, you can have Brit Police come over to ”help” the investigation but they cannot do any investigation. Finally, oh yes, the case is closed, so getting DNA from the person (that everyone believes actually did it) is pointless!! Don’t worry, karma will get ya.

  16. The person(s) who committed the crime was most likely on yabaa which obliterates the size issue and also the rationale for the murders.
    Thailand is not a dangerous country in general but it has and underlying racism and superiority complex issue. Thai people are generally honest and I never count the change…..which I do invariably in my own country.
    The police is as corrupt as it gets. I would not want to be a honest officer here.
    Foreigners are often disrespectul of thai culture but that is no good reason for brutal murder and violence…..unfortunately, whilst not dangerous this is a violent country; with many guns pro capita and a respect for brutality the result is predictable.
    On top of fighting the social plague of yabaa the ideal of impunity should be eradicated. ” I murder a foreigner in my own country so I am fine”….must be replaced with ” I murdered another human being.”

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  18. I was on Ko Samui and Phangan for some time after these murders and I was so shocked to hear that everyone, literally everyone I spoke to, locals and expats alike, all KNEW that these 2 guys are innocent and that its a total set up. I wont go into detail here but I wold like to know -HOW can we get something going, some kind of petition on line or major international awareness on this case? I wrote to the parents of the victims, only on fb, but Ive heard they believe the Burmese guys did it as they are buying the Thai DNA theory- (which incidentally I was told, in confidence over there , that the Thai Police actually forced the 2 guys to masturbate and inserted the ‘evidence ‘ into the dead body) There are no limits as to what the thais will do to save ‘face’ or make money. Everyone knows who did this. I realise its conjecture, but several people told me that the guy did this. was seen the following day, covered in scratches and the night before he had been high as a kite on drugs. A few days later the same guy was quietly shipped off to Bangkok..back to University. So this guy will still be free. Free to do this all over again ..some day. And 2 innocent men could be killed. What they have been through is already horrific. The Burmese people are gentle and humble. These boys were just trying to eek out a living and support their poor familes. It distress’s me beyond words to think they could die for this. I love Thailand and have been back many many times and lived on these islands, but I am seriously thinking of never going back due to all this . So sad. Such a beautiful country, and some wonderful people, but with this shit going on its seriously dark. I was told, that if I didnt stop ‘snooping’ and if I posted my thoughts on fb, I could be in danger myself. Only costs a $200 to have a ‘farang’ taken out! Shortly before , A Russian guy was shot 5 times in the back. Verdict: Suicide. Say no more.

    1. Nicola my friend was murdered on 8/1/16 on Koh Tao, he was not on the bar crawls but drinking in the lotus bar, his battered body was found in the swimming pool of the sunset bar the next morning. We have been told cctv was broken. Within 12 hrs the police had said accidental drowning was the cause of death. Luke was only 26 and like his last post on Facebook says he was ‘living the dream’. We will never except this verdict and I, like you believe that global awareness is needed. It’s hard to believe that a place of such beauty on the surface is one of the most corrupt and utterly vile places on earth.

  19. Hi Mike,

    Thanks for such a well-informed and indepth explanation about what really goes on on the Thai islands. I’m glad people are standing up and taking notice. Reading some recent comments too, it begs belief that most visitors to the islands around the time of the deaths knew that the two Burmese men were innocent, but seemingly shrugged it off. I can just imagine it. Nicola, if you’re reading this, I too am desperate to see a petition of some kind.

    This really struck a chord with me, since my boyfriend and I, who are the same age as Hannah and David, were assaulted in Zoe in Yellow bar, way up north in the usually charming Chaing Mai infront of hundreds of revellers a few months before the murders. It could have been much worse but boyfriend was admitted to hospital with some gnarly head injuries. (on a side note, I just want to warn as many people as possible about th dangers at Zoe in Yellow, so here’s my post about what happened, and the corruption that goes on allover Thailand, not just in the islands):

    http://www.thewanderlist.net/thailand/chiang-mai-zoe-in-yellow/

    “backpackers generally don’t pay attention to these sort of things, many tend to think they are invincible or will never happen to them”

    well summarised Mike.
    It REALLY frustrates me how visitors, as well as maybe even expats in Thailand, not only turn a blind eye to it all, but actually defend the perpetrators. For example we’ve met lots of British travellers who, instead of sympathising about both the Koh Tao murders, AND our own horriffic experience at Zoes in Chaing Mai, state that the victims must have done something to provoke them in the first place. “They’ll never do anything unless you disrespect them” is the general consensus. no shit, sherlock.

    Even on the evening of my boyfriend being beaten by the staff at Zoe’s. backpackers who witnessed what happened merely shrugged and said they’ve been frequeting the bar every night for 2 weeks now and ‘it happens all the time. you get used to it.’

  20. Firstly thank you for the informative post. I am looking into purchasing land on Koh Tao.

    This is only my assumption on the British murder.

    All arrows point to the son (& possible friend) of the influential family head being the guilty culprits. They run, fabricate an alibi, the father offers the RTP money, the RTP spread the fabricated alibi, Sean the witness is threatened by “mafia” family, refusing DNA tests, the couple leaving a bar connect to said family, etc.

    I reckon the son was in/near the bar chatting up Hannah (or trying to) and wouldn’t take no for an answer. The British guy went home with her and the mafia prince got jealous.

    – Going purely on the crime itself:

    Who ever killed them wanted the girl sexually – hence the rape. To go after a girl who is already with a guy, especially with witnesses around would require an ego, ego enough to think there would be no repercussions against them for such a brazen double murder/rape. Ego that would come with power without responsibility. The exact sort of ego seen time and time again, throughout history in the sons of powerful men – specifically feared men/gangsters.

    Add the crime with the indications post murder & there is only really one outcome. it is in my opinion as plain as day.

    The “Mafia Prince” (and possibly his buddy) killed the pair. The father paid off the RTP.

    1. ” Planning to buy land on Koh Tao…”

      If this is your plan it is obvious you are a Thai citizen, but if you are not closely involved with or related to the Headman referred to in the British tragedy, you would be well advised to invest in other regions of Thailand where the dice may not be so loaded against you.

  21. I wanted to return to this excellent blog post as I’ve just woken up to the verdict in the UK. Seemingly a huge miscarriage of justice has taken place and the families of the victims seem publicly content with the courts ruling. Another classic case of corruption in the developing world…

    Makes me want to reconsider going back to Koh Tao early next year for a few days vacation

    1. Reconsider? It should be a no-brainer. I just came back from Phangan and Samui and although I would have liked to see Koh Tao again the sick taste in my mouth that the senseless killings have left meant i had to pass.
      I CAN NOT believe tourist dont care enough to boycott Koh Tao!!

  22. You really should rename this to “The Dark-side of Thailand”. THailand is in the shadow of their king, who is in his own shadow over the murder of his own brother which caused the execution of 3 innocent Thai, just to cover up the case. Ever since, the rest of Thailand’s path is history, based on the murder of King Rama IIIV, the true king of Thailand, if any!

  23. The Burmese did not do it but the Thai PM ordered them to be found guilty” because ” No Thai could have done it”

    Hannah’s family have reserved their opinion but David’s family have been totally hoodwinked by the RTP and just wanted closure.

    Relations with Myanmar now very strained.

    British police seem to be bending over backwards to accommodate the RTP to preserve the previous status quo where the RTP were helpful in tracking down British fugitives in Thailand.

    Thailand through its leaders and elitist class is a very evil place and probably no longer such a good holiday destination as the leaders grow closer to China who has a plan to absorb their former tributary states, China will be the only country to accept the decision re this case and ultimately the British won’t when they get over Xmas holidays.

    A massive travesty.

  24. day by day Thailand’s current rulers grow closer to China whose leaders thoroughly approve this verdict. Mike is quite right to say the proposed appeal is unlikely to run its course. Huge money has been spent to achieve this conviction by the real offenders. Only a small further amount will be needed to bring about yet 2 more suicides in Thai jails. The number of suicides and assisted suicides in Thai jails has been on the rise over the last few months. An evil situation in a country which once wanted to be taken seriously. None of the above detracts from the fact that in the general population and away from the elitist class there is a population of very nice but powerless peoples.

  25. I will never return to Koh Tao let alone Thailand, this is injustice. I prefer to visit Burma. The island suffers from small island fever – the island is their world – this is what happens when you stay there too long. Too scared to remember your actual moral convictions because as an expat, you sunk your livelihood into that place. They (mafia) rule it. You never get newspapers on the island to broaden your horizons anymore – do actually do not care about what is happening anywhere else in the world – because the island is your world. Don’t let anything destroy your ‘Utopian view’. I still remember Burmese being taken out to sea and dumped – to their deaths. Probably because, their thai employers did not want to pay them for their labour in building their resorts. Because they are illegal – there is no recourse for action.

  26. This whole scenario is complicated by the belief that the headman on Koh Tao was a major financial sponsor of the Yellow shirt movement that brought Prayut to power, the same goes for Natural Foods Corporation who are trying to get Andy Hall thrown into jail. Andy is the main effective source of international support for the unlucky Burmese.

  27. Our friend was murdered in Koh Tao on January 8. He was beaten and dumped into a swimming pool at Sunset bar on sairee beach. I know this message will probably be removed but If one person sees this who is considering going to Koh Tao my advise to you is don’t. If you do decide that you want to risk your lives despite the inherent dangers and also attend these bar crawls, I urge you to stick with your friends. Do not leave one another’s side. The Island is dangerous and you are not safe going anywhere alone, even in pairs you are not safe. Safety in numbers at all times. I am telling you this from personal experience. I do not wish for anyone to go through the pain and horror of losing a loved one in similar circumstances. We did not attend this pub crawl but I know how crazy they get. Hannah and David were murdered on the beach after attending these pub crawls. Our friend was enjoying a drink at Lotus bar on sairee beach and was later found “drowned” in the morning. Do not become a story in the world news. Go home to your families alive and not in a box. Even better do not visit Koh Tao. Our friend Luke Miller arrived home yesterday and a second post mortem will be conducted as obviously the Thai officials would like this to be passed off as and accident. It was not! Please join our page “Luke’s legacy ( justice for Luke) ” as we find the answers and justice for our friend in the hope that this never happens again. #boycottkohtao #justiceforluke #livingthedream

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